My consult today, what do you think? *Updated at bottom*

I had my consult today and I asked all the questions I needed to ask, I think? :-) I have been kinda of out of it due to being sick.We got dumped on by a bunch of snow last night, 7-8 inches so it made the travel to our RE a bit more difficult today. It is normally about 40-45 minutes in good weather but it took us over an hour.We discussed the quality of the embryos,which all three are even better than the ones that created Nanner, but we know that quality isn't everything.Timing,your body and God have a lot to do with it too.So I know that there is no guarantees this will work.I did ask how many he recommends we transfer and he said at least 2 and that the 3rd was up to us if we were willing to accept the chance of multiples.DH and I have been discussing this and this where some of our thoughts are on this.I am going to try to give you girls the facts so that you can help weigh in and tell me what you think we should do.

-RE says risks for multiples is low if we put in all three but none the less it is a risk he said it is 5-10% for triplets and 10-20% for twins

-We could lose embryos in the thaw therefore making this a non issue but we need to know what we want ahead of time

-RE made a point to say that we transferred 3 last time and only ended up with 1 baby and said that is pretty typical for a frozen transfer

-We know that we are pretty sure that this is it for us this year that we can not afford to do another transfer if this does not work, so the 1 remaining embryo could be sitting there frozen for another year or more

-But if it does work the 1 remaing embryo could still be sitting there for a year or more

-If we do not transfer all 3 embies that will leave us with 1 embie in storage (and hefty storage fees to pay), that may or may not make the thaw next time and may or may not become a baby.But it most certainly does not give us much to work with in the event of trying again.Even if we were able to afford to get on the list and matched again our clinic does not mix embies (which I am glad for since it allows me to know which profile belongs to the baby I may be carrying) which means we would have to try with one embie total providing it made the thaw, before we could proceed with new embies.(wow I am hearing $$$)

-I once read that for each embie transferred you have about a 30% chance of becoming pregnant so it would stand to reason that with 3 your chance is good.So that works out to 90% chance respectively.

-Our current embies are not blasts they are a 4 cell grade 1,a 2 cell grade 1 and a 3 cell grade 2+ (our previous set that made Nanner was a 7 cell grade 2,a 4 cell grade 2 and a 6 cell grade 3, He said the grade 3 embie was pretty bad but you never know that could be the one that made Nanner :-) Our current set is higher quality than our previous. I know different clinics have different rating systems, I guess grade 1 is the highest and and a 2+ is about equal to a 1 it's like getting a B+ in school almost an A but not quite. Both sets of embies were and are sets of three.

-There is a chance that this won't even work and this is all for nothing :-( I know I shouldn't think like that,but really we could put all 3 in and none take that's the reality.

-This set is not a genetic set to the one that made Nanner so you can not compare outcome except that I was able to carry a pregnancy finally....

-Here is the background on the previous parents and recipient:
Set began as 10,
Genetic parents transferred 1 =one live birth
First recipient transferred 2 =low positive preg test no live birth
First recipient transferred 3 =2 babies live birth for both
1 embryo was lost in thawing process by one of the previous parents
3 left in storage for us :-)


So there you have some of the facts I am not sure if I have left anything out that would help you to help me make a decision if I have and anyone has any questions please let me know.DH said he is ultimately ok with transferring all 3 but it is my body and and I have the final say.I just want to do the right thing and I also am scared that I will make the wrong decision and it won't work.Now as far as time frame goes for when we might do this cause I know you are all wondering that :-) The RE said we could do as early as a April or May transfer if we get on the schedule.So I am thinking that over as I didn't think I would do another transfer in April but now I am reconsidering it (Marilyn tell Tim thanks for that one lol).So here we are digesting our appointment today and deciding where to go from here.I am going to be keeping closer track of what is spent this time total for when people email and ask me so that I can tell them.We do not have fertility coverage so ours may be higher than some but it will give an idea for those of you just beginning this journey.Today's visit just to talk to the doctor $189.00 out of pocket.Ouch! But what you gonna do? :-) Well that's it for now girls thank you for your well wishes for me and Nanner they are greatly appreciated, ((hugs)) to you all...

Update -To answer your question Tammy yes they are all in separate straws:-)

-Our office said that multicells tend to make the thaw better than blasts due to their lesser stage of development.

-Also all 3 of our previous embryos from Nanners set made the thaw.

-It was thought by my OBGYN that I was PG with twins but it got missed until I had my bleed/SCH at 9 weeks 1 day (there is an entry in blog about it) at which time I lost one so it is possible that 2 initially took.But no one will ever know for sure.

-I/we are not scared of twins/multiples per se just of complications during PG and to the babies.

-I have so LOVED hearing from all of you it has been wonderful to get your input all of you are WONDERFUL!!! Thank you so much it so appreciated! I sat and read all of your comments to DH :-)

Our consult for our next FET is here

Seems like I just made the appointment and was worried how far off it was and now it is here.I am excited however I am so sick so it dampens the mood a bit.I did write down my questions so my feverish brain doesn't forget what I wanted to know :-) My appointment is at 9:40 am Monday and I will be updating on here as soon as I am able.I will be discussing the quality of our embies,how many they think we should transfer,approx time frame for our FET and basically where we go from here to name a few things.So there it is for now girls I will update when I know more.

And the winner of the monitor is.....

Nanner drew the winning name today out of his cement mixer truck :-) Even though he is under the weather. The poor little guy came down yesterday with vomiting,diarrhea and has been running a fever.At it's highest today it was 101.4 but he didn't let that stop him from his official duty of picking the winner. But that will explain why he was less than smiles on the video.He still had fun doing it and continued drawing them all and putting back over and over again after we were all done lol Watch the video below for the winner,have a wonderful Saturday everyone!

My clear plan/clear blue fertility monitor giveaway is still going on

I have decided not to draw a name until Saturday February 19th due to multiple people being interested and requests still coming in.And I want to give anyone who may not have heard about it a chance to get in on it.So there you have it an official name drawing date. I will have "Nanner" draw the name because at 14 months he is as random as they come these days. Lets just hope he doesn't eat it before I can read it. LOL. So if anyone else is interested please leave a comment and a way to contact you if it doesn't link back to your blog or leave me a personal email if you would rather, my email is on my blog. My email is on the right hand side if you scroll down a little bit plus it is in my blogger profile.Take care girls :-)

Could anyone out there use this?? I am giving it away :-)

I have been in a clean out mood lately. And I came acrossed my clear plan/clear blue fertility monitor.I of course used this with no luck as my issues were so much larger than this little device could help me with.But I did spend a good chunk of change on it and really hate to see it go to waste just sitting around.I will never ever use it or need it again so it seems silly to hold on it.It is the same as the clear blue monitor they just changed the name on them about hmmm maybe 4-5 years ago. It works great! My body just doesn't :-( So if one of my readers thinks they may be able to give it a good home please let me know.As I am giving it away for free. You can either email me or leave me a comment. If I get more than one request for it I will be drawing a name.This is a link to a an old post in which it is pictured. You can buy replacement test sticks for it at drug.storecom, amaz.on,e.bay and a few other places you just have to search online.The monitor has already been cleaned and wiped down with alcohol just for your peace of mind :-P Hugs to my girls, love hearing from you and have been looking back at old posts and comments remembering some of you that I haven't heard from in FOREVER!! MISS YOU!!

Consult appointment for next FET is scheduled

Well I called my RE's office this week and made my consultation appointment.I could hardly believe it when they said they were scheduled out a month just to get in for a consult.So I took first available which was a month out.I ended up having to call the office back later that day for something I forgot to ask and got lucky as there was a cancellation so I got in 1 week earlier.Thank goodness for forgetting to ask questions the first time around :-)So my consult appointment is set for February 21st at 9:40 AM. We will be discussing our game plan and what we need to do to get the ball rolling in order to proceed with our next transfer.I did find out that they had yet another price increase.Ouch!!Just since last summer when I called.They have had a few since we got matched in December 2008.Just to give you an idea the price to get matched for our first was $800.00 ( year 2008) that does not include monitoring,labs, ultrasounds, meds,or transfer it is just the matching fee.It then went up to $1,800 (2009) and I was informed it again went up just this past summer to $2,225(2010).They have not had their price increase for 2011 yet but I am told it usually happens in the summer. Umm... ok, no pressure here...So we are hoping to get in before things go up yet again.Because the price increases did not just affect the matching fees it affects all the fees including mock transfers,hysto sono,(which I am due for both of those)u/s's,transfers etc. All fee's. While we don't necessarily need to get matched again, we do have three embies waiting for us.There is the fear that what if it doesn't work,they make the thaw etc. We will be discussing what the RE feels we should do when we go.He will be able to tell us if he believes we need additional set as he can discuss the quality of our remaining embryos with us at that time.I know that we pretty much have only one shot at this in 2011 unless a miracle happens.So if our set doesn't make it and we have paid out all our money on meds monitoring etc.There will not be enough to for everything next time.So then we are through for 2011. Which will be heartbreaking.Plus we know we want more kids so it might not be a horrible idea (if we can afford to) to get on the list before it goes up again. Gulp! So there you have it girls thats the latest.I will also leave you with some photos of my cuties.

Learning young what Michigan winters are all about lol Believe or not they beg to shovel, yeah I have no idea.... lol







My oldest son "G" and his first night in his new big boy bed, just moved out of his toddler bed.


Nanner and his very first subway kids pack, He loved it!



Me with my baby boys on my birthday.






Our homeschool project peanut butter pinecone bird feeders



Guess who's walking completely unassisted and very steadily.